This Isn’t What I Signed Up For

I don’t have a specific question. I’m not here to argue. I’m just tired.

I got involved in amateur radio, and ARES specifically, because I wanted to help my community in times of need. I still do. But what I’ve experienced on Groups.io reflects none of that. Threads that start with technical questions often spiral into condescension or ego-driven commentary. People get publicly shamed for asking the wrong way, or not knowing every detail. Others jump in just to flex their credentials and belittle.

I’ve spoken to folks locally who’ve muted these Groups.io boards, stopped participating, or walked away entirely. Not because they don’t care about amateur radio or ARES, but because the tone and behavior in this space is often toxic. Others stay silent out of fear that if they speak up, they’ll be treated with the same disrespect they’ve seen directed at others. And honestly, I get it.

What makes it worse is that no one is speaking up. Not leadership, not seasoned operators, not the people who should know better. I specifically wanted to address this in a recent thread that was locked before I could get the chance, and while I don’t know who has the power to shut down engagement, I do know they haven’t addressed the underlying behavior. That kind of silence, combined with moderation that avoids accountability, doesn’t just allow the problem to continue; it reinforces it.

This kind of culture, right here on Groups.io, feeds the very narrative we should be fighting: that amateur radio is outdated, elitist, and not worth protecting. In the context of the FCC’s “Delete Delete Delete” docket, it’s not hard to imagine how the tone and behavior we normalize here, even in a closed forum, could contribute to the perception that amateur radio is fractured, unwelcoming, and no longer worth defending.

To be clear, my frustration isn’t with ARES as an organization, or with my local group. It’s with how discussions play out here on Groups.io. The hobby itself is an endless quest for knowledge. There are too many facets for any one person to know it all. That should be something we celebrate, not punish.

I’m not trying to stir the pot or make a scene. I’m not here to criticize ARES or anyone personally. But staying silent doesn’t sit right with me either. At some point, someone has to say what others are quietly thinking, even if it’s uncomfortable.

I still believe in the value of this service. But if we can’t even talk to each other with basic decency, I don’t know what’s left.

Ron Estes
KJ5EFO

I was going to post something much like this, but figured I’d be ridiculed since I’m not “active” enough. And thanks for reminding me I can mute Groups.io :+1:

Ron,

Very well said. Condescending and rude comments are in no way beneficial to the amateur community. We all make mistakes and there is a supportive way to help one see a mistake.

Again, you have made some excellent points. Thank you.

73,

Gary W5GW

Ron:

I share your frustration! There aren’t many XYLs participating however, I get SO tired of being viewed as one of those bumbling females who don’t know their hind end from a hole in the ground! If it weren’t for Tom, I would have checked out of HAM radio LONG ago! Personal decision, I don’t need an organization; I’ll do what I feel comfortable doing and let the chips fall where they may. I stopped playing political games when I retired…

Howdy all,

Remember the day when we had to OG types who complained about these young rubes who got their licenses - ‘without having to learn code!?!?!’ Yup, in many ways, some of the biggest ‘b****-ers’ are like those old guys. I ignore them; I have WAY too much on my plate right now to invest in them and ‘validate them’ in any way. I’m still gainfully employed (I hope for the next couple of years) so besides this hobby (and that is what it is - NOT a second job for which I don’t receive enough money!!) I’ve also got my 40 hours a week job, plus time I need to spend with my family, church, and others. If I spent even a fraction of a moment giving time to any or all of the nay-sayers and self-styled ‘purists’ of this part of the service, I’d quit.

I’m not planning on it (quitting) any time soon; because there’s too much of a need. A tornado, a flash flood, hurricane, or - even as rare as such a thing is - an earthquake, and we might be the only thing keeping ANY communications going. If you don’t want to believe me, read the news article about Matagorda County and Hurricane Beryl one more time!

To close it all, let me quote Benjamin Franklin - ‘If we don’t all hang together, we shall hang separately.’ Or as another person said, ‘Let the dogs bark, the train is moving on!’

73 de KA7SSR
Jim Vineyard

I won’t put up with belittling or talking bad about another organization. This thread will be locked just as the original thread was.

Back to the good work that needs done,

Jeffery A Walter – KE5FGA

ARRL STX SEC